shanghai job network

Welcome to the shanghai job network.
This blog aims to
- profile successful job seekers and employers to see what worked for them
- take the stress out of finding a job using knowledge, effort, and support
- provide information on all aspects of the Shanghai job search
- create a supportive network of active job seekers
- share job search goals, expand your networking contacts and use them to successfully market yourself

It is not
- an employment service, although you can research our lists and links to job sites
- a counseling service. If you need professional career guidance there are qualified people available in Shanghai.

Please feel free to join and contribute. We aim to provide lots of useful links and tips.

We know that networking and guanxi are a huge part of the Shanghai job search. So get together with us to explore Shanghai’s work possibilities!

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Magali, Senior Manager in recruitment for the financial services industry

SJN: Where are you from?
France

SJN: When did you come to Shanghai and why?
Magali came with her husband and two children 3 years ago. Her husband had studied Chinese and wanted to come here to live and work. She was happy with her job in France and didn’t particularly want to relocate, but was willing to try for one to one and a half years. They both left their jobs in France and arrived here with their children, to look for work.

SJN: Did you speak/ English and/or Mandarin or any other languages when the work started?
Magali spoke English and French, her husband spoke English, French, Mandarin

SJN: What is your job description and title in Shanghai?
Magali’s first position in Shanghai was as Senior Business Consultant, for a company specializing in recruitment for international firms in Shanghai. This was working in the areas of business development and execution, managing a small team.

She was recently recruited by her former company (in France) to work as a Senior Manager, setting up their Shanghai division.

SJN: Was this a career change/or a career continued here in Shanghai?
Magali worked for Robert Half International in Paris, a recruitment company specialising in the finance and banking industries. Prior to that she worked for five years in the financial industry.
Both positions in Shanghai have followed on from her previous positions, within the same general industry of finance and recruitment.

SJN: What got you recruited, for example: a specific competence, the company you work for is focused on the expat market, the job is reserved for foreigners, the international profile of the job, any other reason?
For both positions, Magali was an ideal candidate, as she has a very specialized profile, and her experience in both the finance industry and the financial recruitment industry meant she was an excellent match. The positions require skills in English, rather than Chinese. Although the majority of potential recruits are Chinese, it is their English language skills that are important for this section of the industry. Chinese is a plus, but mainly for dealing with the daily interaction in the office and society. For her new position (with her former company), it helped to have kept in social contact with former colleagues, and to be able to offer them the added advantage of now knowing how the China market works, as well as knowing specifically how that company worked from her time in their employ in France.

SJN: Is the position full time/flexible fulltime or part time?
Both positions have been fulltime, however her first employer was flexible when necessary. She feels that it would not be possible to do such a job on a part time basis.

SJN: What is the size of the company/Country of origin of the company?
Both are international companies.

SJN: What strategy did you use to get the job, what worked or did not work?
Magali found it easy to find work, as she has specialised skills that are in demand in Shanghai. She had not yet prepared her resume when her husband forwarded her a job ad, and she then found a second ad. She followed up both positions, interviewed with both companies, and was able to choose between the two. As they are both local contracts they are not like expatriate packages and would not provide enough to support a family, however when the time came for her second position she had the benefit of local experience to add to her resume and was able to negotiate a much better package.
She has liked living and working in Shanghai much more than she initially expected, so much so that she and her husband are now in their third year, and happy to stay on.

SJN: What tips you would give to job searchers in Shanghai?
Chinese language skills help in basic office and work communication, but, depending on the industry, it is not necessarily an advantage to speak Chinese.

- It is useful if you have a very specific profile not available on the local market. If you don’t then it is more necessary to learn Chinese.

- Finance and accounting are two areas that currently have big shortages of qualified people.

- In the areas of marketing and sales you need to be willing to adapt to the local market in terms of working conditions and remuneration.

- Networking is extremely important. Try to use different channels such as recruitment companies (although their focus is on local staff), alumni associations, and people you meet through school and social networks if you have children. It can actually be an advantage when looking for work, as you find you can meet a lot of people easily through your children’s networks, and they are often expatriates very well established in their careers.

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tips for teachers

Make connections by getting out into the ex-pat community. Make your own professional name cards and get them printed here in China. Give these to other professional people that you meet while networking.
For qualified teachers go to http://www.searchassociates.com/
Renee
Read her story here

Moving here may have been a big change or upheaval, make sure that you find a position that you enjoy.
Also, if you cannot find the exact position that you are looking for, be open to a change.
Waheeda
Read her story here

Be professional at the interview, be prepared. Communicate clearly and don’t be afraid to ask questions. You must have networks from a variety of different backgrounds and interests. Also, when you are looking for something you need to utilise those networks.
Matt
Read his story here

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Renee, teacher at an International School Shanghai

SJN: Where are you from?
Australia

SJN: When/Why/how did you come to Shanghai?
In April 2008 a girlfriend emailed me asking if I would be interested in teaching in Shanghai. 24 hours earlier, my partner and I had decided to look at options for going abroad. I emailed back and said yes. After investigating more about Shanghai and the position, I had a phone interview with the Principal of the school who had known me from a previous school in Australia. She offered me the position and we arrived in Shanghai 3 months later.

SJN: Did you speak English and/or Mandarin or any other languages when the work started?
No, I only spoke English.

SJN: What is your job description/title?
SJN: Grade 2 Classroom teacher. I work at an International School in Shanghai teaching expatriate children from many countries of the world. The language of instruction is English and I teach math, language and Units of Inquiry (integrated studies).

SJN: Was this a career change/or a career continued here in Shanghai?
This was the continuation of my teaching career. It expanded my options and challenged my skills as a teacher. So for me I see it as a step up in my career teaching outside the norm of what I would do in Australia. I love the new challenges and cultures which it exposes to me. It keeps me interested, engaged and passionate about what I do.

SJN: What got you recruited, for example: a specific competence, the company you work for is focused on the expat market, the job is reserved for foreigners, the international profile of the job, any other reason.
International schools need qualified Western teachers, so the position is reserved for English speaking foreigners. I was fortunate enough that I knew the Principal of this specific school, who knew me personally and could trust that hiring me from abroad would be a good choice for her organisation. Usually teachers go through associations such as Search Associates, which connects them to suitable jobs and international schools worldwide. Yearly Search Associates hold interview sessions at weekend long job fairs around the world. Many of my colleagues have been hired through these channels. However I understand the competition to be extremely high at these job fairs.
SJN: Is your work full time, flexible full time or part time?
I work Full Time

SJN: What is the size of the company/Country of origin of the company?
Our company is staffed by approximately 35 Western staff, and 50 Chinese staff including ayis and guards. The company is owned by a group of international investors, some living in Shanghai, some in the USA or other areas of the world. The School supports an International Curriculum through the IB and does not subscribe to a specific curriculum of any one country.

SJN: What tips you would give to job searchers in Shanghai?
Make connections by getting out into the ex-pat community. Make your own professional name cards and get them printed here in China. Give these to other professional people that you meet while networking.
For qualified teachers go to http://www.searchassociates.com/

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Waheeda, teacher at an international school

SJN: Where are you from?
Toronto, Canada but before coming here we had moved from Toronto to London, England and then we moved from London to Shanghai.

SJN: When, why and how did you come to Shanghai?
We arrived in Shanghai April, 2008.
My husband, my son and I came for my husband’s work.

SJN: Did you speak English and/or Mandarin or any other languages when the work started?
I speak English, French and Urdu.
I began studying Mandarin for communication about four weeks before we left the United Kingdom. I continue to study Mandarin presently.

SJN: What is your job description/title?
I am currently an Early Childhood Education Teacher. I teach 3 and 4 year olds at an International School.

SJN: Was this a career change/or a career continued here in Shanghai?
I have been teaching for almost fifteen years but I usually teach middle and elementary school; children ranging in ages from nine to fourteen years old. I also usually teach both English and French.

SJN: What got you recruited, for example: a specific competence, the company you work for is focused on the expat market, the job is reserved for foreigners, the international profile of the job, any other reason?
I was hired for a few different reasons:
Because I am a qualified teacher- with both a university degree and a teaching degree, because I have many years of experience, because I enjoy what I do and because I had relief/supply teaching experience at the school where I was hired.

SJN: Full time, flexible fulltime or part time?
I work full time.

SJN: What is the size of the company, country of origin of the company you work for?
The school is called Yew Chung International School of Shanghai.
Its roots are in Hong Kong. They have campuses throughout China and one in America.

What strategy did you use to get the job, what worked/did not work?
First I did some part time work. I made myself available to the different years from Early Childhood Years up to Year 6. I also took the time to participate and help in staff development days and social events.

What tips you would give to job searchers in Shanghai?
Moving here may have been a big change or upheaval, make sure that you find a position that you enjoy.
Also, if you cannot find the exact position that you are looking for, be open to a change.

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Matt, Music Teacher and Sound Engineer

SJN: Where are you from?
Australia, Melbourne

SJN: When/Why/how did you come to Shanghai?
My wife Renee was offered a job in Shanghai in April 2008. My business wasn’t travelling very well and so we made the decision to grab the opportunity and head overseas for her work. It seemed like a great opportunity and a great place to visit.

SJN: Did you speak/ English and/or Mandarin or other languages (please specify) when the work started?
I spoke English and a little German but not enough to be useful. Because of the work with international students, it was not an issue to be speaking only English. Although, it was surprising for the first few weeks to hear so many languages bouncing around the classroom.

SJN: What is your job description/title?
Music Teacher and Sound engineer, YCIS Yew Chung International School).

SJN: Was this a career change/or a career continued here in Shanghai?
This was a career change; the job fell into my lap when we arrived as I was planning to continue with music performance and other work while over here. The week before school went back in the summer I was hired by Renee’s school to teach music to their middle school.

SJN: What got you recruited, for example: a specific competence, the company you work for is focused on the expat market, the job is reserved for foreigners, the international profile of the job, any other reason.
I was in the right place at the right time, I had skills in music and music education which I was able to draw upon at an international school. My second job came through the network that I developed friendships with, that was how I heard about it. I got an interview and progressed through the conventional channels.

SJN: Is your position full time/flexible fulltime or part time?
First year was casual/part-time hours, this year is salaried and part-time still.

SJN: What is the size of the company/Country of origin of the company/Company activity?
WISS was a fledgling school, YCIS is more established and part of a franchise across Asia including Beijing and Hong Kong.

SJN: What strategy did you use to get the job, what worked/did not work?
Connect and network in Shanghai, it is so important to do this otherwise you turn into an island with no real part in the community overseas.

SJN: What tips you would give to job searchers in Shanghai?
Be professional at the interview, be prepared. Communicate clearly and don’t be afraid to ask questions. You must have networks from a variety of different backgrounds and interests. Also, when you are looking for something you need to utilise those networks.

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more tips for job seekers….

There are some particular industries in Shanghai in which it is still relatively easy to find work, although Chinese language skills are becoming more important.
Areas such as sales, recruitment, real estate that specifically target expatriates are good areas to look in.

I would also suggest Linkedin (a global professional network) – not so much for posting your profile, but as an avenue to find out higher level people within a company you are interested in, and so know who to approach.

Be proactive. Don’t rely on recruitment agencies. Their target market is Chinese, not foreigners. Whereas in Australia if I as looking for work, I would approach 4-5 relevant recruitment agencies, and then wait for them to find position relevant to me, here it works differently.

The most important thing is networking. You can approach Chambers of Commerce and get involved – for example, join a committee. This ay you meet people, and you are meeting them in an environment in which they can see you at work. This can lead to introductions based on more than just exchanging cards.

For men, sport is a good means of introduction. If you join a regular team sport, you are often playing with people from a business environment, often from more senior positions. Again it is a more active means than meeting in a pub.

Julia Worrall, Recruit, Train, Retain Shanghai

Read about how she set up a business here.

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tips for job seekers in Shanghai

Shanghai can be a superficial place, and is full of opportunists. I think it is important to make real connections with people, rather than attend formal networking events. If you meet people doing the things you enjoy, then the connections can be more valuable in the long term.
Family support is important, especially if you are a ‘half-pat’ (someone who comes here and is hired locally, without a ‘package’).

Learning and speaking Chinese does make a difference to your daily life and well-being, but I do think you can find a niche without speaking Chinese. However, speaking the language can soften the impact of ‘culture-shock’, make work life easier, and help you to feel more at home in Shanghai.

Claire Theaker-Brown, Marketing/Events Director

Learn Chinese as soon as you arrive. Spend 3-4 months concentrating on this as it is essential.

Attend networking events such as those organized by Chambers of Commerce, or the EPWS for women.

Look for a joint venture or a multinational company, approaching a local company is not very useful unless your Chinese is fluent.

Make sure when you negotiate your package that you look at the most tax effective methods – there are allowances for foreign employees.

Sasha, Yoga Teacher

Network as much as possible. It felt kind of strange at first, like constant self promotion, but just letting people know what you’re looking for and what you’re good at is really helpful. The community of expats is small and pretty welcoming, and most people are willing to go out of their way for you. I teach privately as well, and my students occasionally offer to advertise on their yahoo groups, or within their group of friends, and that kind of word of mouth is extremely useful.

The majority of my students have come from networking or referrals, and I really can’t say enough about how important both of those are. I spent a long time without a job because I was afraid of asking people to help me, but once I did, opportunities came. If someone isn’t willing to intro you, they will tell you, but it seems the communities here are diverse enough that there is always someone in your line of work who is willing to help you out.

It also really helps to have an up to the date resume with a photo. I am always being asked for a photo. Interviews are different here; I have been asked all sorts of things that are illegal to ask in the US, like my age and martial status, so getting comfortable with that process is important, too.

There are many community events and networking clubs around the city happening weekly—depending on your line of work, you’ll be able to find one that suits you. I went to a few in the beginning and just getting out there and representing yourself is positive. Even if the event is not geared for you—I went to a fashion and entertainment industry event once—you will meet people who can steer your toward another, more specific event.

Sarah, Yoga Teacher

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Julia Worrall, Consultant with Recruit, Trian, Retain

Setting up Recruit, Train, Retain in Shanghai
Julia Worrall, Consultant www.recruittrainretain.com
SJN: What is the size of your company, and is it a local or international company?
We have two staff. The company is registered both locally and in Hong Kong.

SJN: What is the industry in which you operate?
Recruitment and consulting. The company recruits and trains recruitment industry professionals.

SJN: What language skills did you have when you arrived in Shanghai? (ie Chinese, English, other)
English and Chinese. Prior to coming to Shanghai, I lived and worked in Taipei, learning Chinese and teaching English. My husband and I met in Taipei and then came to Shanghai to work as it was a place where we could use our Mandarin, and it was seemed a promising place to come and work.

SJN: Product research – did you survey what was already out there in your field?
Not really. There was no other competition in the market, as we occupy a very specific niche. I first worked in Shanghai for two years and found that recruitment agencies had a real problem finding and retaining staff.

SJN: Are the types of clients/market you deal with specific to Shanghai? Do you think your business works work here rather than somewhere else?
Yes when we set up the company there was definitely a specific market here. As well as training staff for the recruitment industry, another aspect of the company’s business is coaching expatriate wives and helping them to find work. This is also in demand in Shanghai.

SJN: What do you think the most important factors are in starting your business –
networking, experience, understanding of the job market, money…

The major prompt for starting my own business was the economic crisis in 2008. I had decided to leave my job and look for work, but suddenly no one was hiring. So I took the opportunity to start my own business.

SJN: What are your goals for the future?
I am planning to employ another person.

SJN: Tips you would give to people looking to set up their own business in Shanghai
You need to think carefully about the practical side of running a business. Having a local partner really means leaving everything in their hands – financial, paperwork, registration – I have no control over the local side and so have to place a great deal of trust in my Chinese partner.
I would suggest that coming in as a wholly owned enterprise is preferable, although I have the potential to eventually buy out the local side of my business through my Hong Kong registered office.

Julia talks about how she would recruit and hire a foreigner in her business in Shanghai

SJN: What is the job description/title for which you are considering hiring?
A consultant role for the company.

SJN: Do you recruit locally or internationally and how?
I will recruit locally through word of mouth. I expect I will find them in my own work practice – probably someone who is already applying for work in recruiting. Ideally they would have local experience.

SJN: What you were looking for in the employee, for example: a specific competence, your company is focused on expat market, a job is reserved for foreigners, the international profile of the job, any other reason.
I plan to employ someone who has experience in recruiting, has 4-5 years business development experience, and has experience in database management. I need them to be highly self motivated, as they will work independently. The ability to speak Chinese is not really a factor, but it could help.

SJN: Any tips or recommendations for job seekers? Are there any particular approaches you recommend people try? (eg contact company directly, send CV, email etc)

There are some particular industries in Shanghai in which it is still relatively easy to find work, although Chinese language skills are becoming more important.
Areas such as sales, recruitment, real estate that specifically target expatriates are good areas to look in.

I would also suggest Linkedin(a global professional network) – not so much for posting your profile, but as an avenue to find out higher level people within a company you are interested in, and so know who to approach.

Be proactive. Don’t rely on recruitment agencies. Their target market is Chinese, not foreigners. Whereas in Australia if I as looking for work, I would approach 4-5 relevant recruitment agencies, and then wait for them to find position relevant to me, here it works differently.

The most important thing is networking. You can approach Chambers of Commerce and get involved – for example, join a committee. This ay you meet people, and you are meeting them in an environment in which they can see you at work. This can lead to introductions based on more than just exchanging cards.

For men, sport is a good means of introduction. If you join a regular team sport, you are often playing with people from a business environment, often from more senior positions. Again it is a more active means than meeting in a pub.

INTERVIEW QUESTIONS FOR Shanghai Job Network blog

SJN: Where are you from?
Australia

SJN: When/Why/how did you come to Shanghai?
I came to Shanghai in 2005 to look for work, after living and working in Taipei. I met my husband there, and we wanted to stay in Asia, as middle ground between Australia and the US (where he is from).

SJN: Did you speak/ English and/or Mandarin or any other languages?
When I arrived in Shanghai I spoke Mandarin, as I had studied for the two years I was in Taipei.

SJN: What is your job description/title?
When I first arrived I approached a couple of recruitment agencies and within two weeks I had a job.

SJN: What got you recruited, for example: a specific competence, the company you work for is focused on the expat market, the job is reserved for foreigners, the international profile of the job, any other reason?
My relevant skills and work experience.

SJN: What strategy did you use to get the job, what worked/did not work
I approached recruitment companies and found work quickly.

SJN: What tips would you give to job searchers in Shanghai?
You can find work here without speaking Chinese, in relevant positions dealing with the expat or international communities.
Many companies want to employ someone who is fluent in Chinese without really knowing why or what use it will for that position. I think a knowledge of Chinese helps more in terms of the business and cultural level – fitting in and functioning well in the office environment, making friends, developing closer bonds with colleagues.

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James, Low Carbon Project Manager, British Consulate

SJN: Where are you from?
London

SJN: How did you come to Shanghai?
I came here with my wife, who was assigned to Shanghai on a 2 year expat contract.

SJN: Did you speak/ English and/or Mandarin or other languages when you started this job?
English is my mother tongue; definitely no Mandarin skills though.

SJN: What is your job description and title?
The role I was offered was ‘Low Carbon Project Manager’ for the British Consulate in Shanghai. (The role and title has since evolved).

SJN: Was this a career change/or a career continued here in Shanghai?
A career continued – although I hadn’t worked for the British Foreign Office previously.

SJN: What got you recruited, for example: a specific competence, the company you work for is focused on the expat market, the job is reserved for foreigners, the international profile of the job, any other reason.

I think I was recruited on the strength of my CV (relevant experience in the industry, and relevant project management experience).

SJN: Is the position Full time/Flexible fulltime/part time
Full time.

SJN: What is the size of the company/Country of origin of the company, and the company activity?
The British Consulate employs c. 100 people in Shanghai. Key departments are Visa; UK Trade & Investment; Science; Political/ Press /Economic; Consular services.

SJN: What strategies did you use to get the job, what do you think worked/did not work?

My breakthrough came from talking to friends back in the UK to see what contacts they had in Shanghai – someone suggested speaking to the Consulate to see if they had any relevant job openings. I hadn’t really considered them as a potential employer.

Registering with recruitment consultants got me nowhere – the majority of them never even registered that I’d been in touch.

SJN: What tips you would give to job searchers in Shanghai?
Contacts / networking is the key – the recruitment market doesn’t work in the same way as most Western countries.

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Claire Theaker-Brown, Marketing Events Director, Community Center Shanghai

SJN: Where are you from?
Edmonton, Canada.

SJN: When/how/why did you come to Shanghai?
After I finished high school in 2002 I traveled in China for five months. My grandmother was Chinese, and when she moved back to Shanghai in 2005 I visited her.
After that trip, I knew I wanted to return, so I organized my degree to major in Industrial Design and minor in Mandarin.

I came to China again on a scholarship programme run jointly by the Canadian and Chinese governments. The scholarship meant I could come to China and study Mandarin fulltime for one year.

SJN: Did you speak English and/or Mandarin or other languages when you arrived?
When I arrived I had studied Chinese as a minor, and also French. When I started to work in Shanghai, I had also completed a year’s fulltime study in Mandarin.

SJN: What is your job description/title?
My current position is Marketing Events Director for the Community Center Shanghai.

SJN: Was this a career change, or a continuation in Shanghai?
In Canada during my university education I had worked in a campaign office, organizing political events, and fundraising. I had also worked for a wedding planner, and as assistant event director for a non-profit organization. So my work at the Community Center followed on from previous jobs. I have always followed my instinct when it comes to work, and have found that everything usually falls into place.

SJN: What helped you in attaining this position?
I think my Mandarin level helped me, although it wasn’t essential. The Community Center tends to employ whoever fits the position at the time, not necessarily an expatriate. However there are some positions that will always suit an expatriate, it really depends on the type of job.

SJN: Is your position fulltime, part-time or flexible fulltime?
Definitely fulltime.

SJN: What is the size of the company, and the country of origin of the company?
The Community Center has around 20 staff, and a huge volunteer team. It is an International organization. The goal of the Community Center is to help internationals in Shanghai become more integrated into the local community, and the Center also helps run local charities.

SJN: What strategy did you use to get the job?
During the last three months of my study, I knew I definitely wanted to stay in China, so I tried to meet as many people as possible, and to find out as much as I could about work here. I became involved in various voluntary organisations, and I helped a friend establish a business (see ‘Sweet Bon-O-Mine’ story in setting up a business).
For this position, I didn’t have a strategy, I didn’t know the Community Center was hiring. I was involved with the Center, and they approached me.

For me, the people within the organization are very important, as is a supportive environment. I also had a strong desire to become connected to the Shanghai community, and this may have helped me.

SJN: Do you have any tips for job searchers in Shanghai?

Shanghai is full of opportunities, but as many expats are here to ‘get ahead,’ it can sometimes feel like a superficial place.

I think it is important to make real connections with people, rather than simply attend formal networking events and exchange piles of business cards. If you meet people doing the things you enjoy, then the connections can be more valuable in the long term.

Family support can be important, especially if you are a ‘half-pat’ (someone who comes here and is hired locally, without a ‘package’).

Learning and speaking Chinese does make a difference to your daily life and wellbeing, but I do think you can find a niche without speaking Chinese. However, speaking the language can soften the impact of ‘culture-shock’, make work life easier, and help you to feel more at home in Shanghai.

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